{"id":1599,"date":"2024-03-04T10:41:58","date_gmt":"2024-03-04T10:41:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/?p=1599"},"modified":"2024-05-21T09:46:33","modified_gmt":"2024-05-21T09:46:33","slug":"zemljevid-za-ljudske-sole-leta-1902","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/?p=1599","title":{"rendered":"Zemljevid za slovenske ljudske \u0161ole leta 1902"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Ve\u010dkrat smo se pogovarjali in prerekali zaradi imen krajev na starih zemljevidih, za to so skoraj vedno kriva imena krajev in toponimov, ki so jih italijanski kartografi poitalijan\u010dili, nem\u0161ki pa ponem\u010dili. Niso bili vedno krivi kartografi, ali njihove napake, temve\u010d takratna oblast pod katero so pripravljavci zemljevidov delali. Tipi\u010dni primer je na\u0161e mesto, slovensko govore\u010di doma\u010dini, ki so bili na Koprskem v ve\u010dini, so mesto imenovali Kuopr, Kranjci Koper, Italijani Capodistria in nem\u0161ko govore\u010di Gafers.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1599]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"578\" src=\"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902-1024x578.jpg\" alt=\"Kranjsko in Primorsko 902\" class=\"wp-image-1600\" style=\"width:563px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902-1536x866.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902.jpg 1950w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Izrez iz zemljevida za ljudske \u0161ole s slovenskim jezikom &#8220;Kranjsko in primorsko (Trst. Gorica-Gradi\u0161\u010de in Istra). Haardtov atlas za ljudske \u0161ole&#8221; Zemljevid objavljen na Dunaju leta 1902<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Prilagajanje imen krajev svojemu jeziku je bilo vedno zna\u010dilno za velike narode, ki so in \u0161e \u017eelijo manj\u0161e asimilirati. To se dogaja \u0161e dandanes. Zato tokrat poglejmo primer zemljevida, ki ga je prilagodil Slovenec Franc Ora\u017eem leta 1902, za slovenske ljudske \u0161ole, oziroma za Ljudske \u0161ole s slovenskim u\u010dnim jezikom. Tuji kartografi bi ga morali vzeti za vzgled, saj je napisal imena italijanskih krajev v Italijanskem jeziku, hrva\u0161ka imena v hrva\u0161kem jeziku in slovenska v slovenskem jeziku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Franc Ora\u017eem je za Slovenske ljudske \u0161ole v \u010dasu Avstro Ogrske, priredil starej\u0161i zemljevid za Haardtov atlas za ljudske \u0161ole s slovenskim u\u010dnim jezikom, ki je bil natisnjen na Dunaju leta 1902. Zalo\u017enik je bil Ed. Holzel na Dunaju. Namre\u010d po takratnih zakonih, so vsi narodi v cesarstvu imeli pravico do \u0161ol v svojem jeziku, na podro\u010djih z me\u0161anim prebivalstvom, pa v ve\u010d jezikih. Na 1. sliki na izrezu iz zemljevida, lahko ugotovimo, da so se u\u010denci slovenskih \u0161ol u\u010dili izgovarjali slovenska imena krajev in seveda italijanska imena italijanskih krajev. Tudi legenda zemljevida na 3. sliki, je v Sloven\u0161\u010dini. Na drugi sliki je celoten zemljevid, ki je parava osve\u017eitev, v primerjavi z Italijanskimi zemljevidi, kjer so italijani skoraj vsa imena krajev in vasi poitalijan\u010dili, da bi dokazali, da je cela Istra italijanska.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Izvirni zemljevid hrani David Rumsey Map Collection, David Rumsey Map Center, Stanford Libraries.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Foto Album<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n<div id=\"grid-gallery-48-37093\" data-gg-id=\"48\" data-title=\"Na\u0161i kraji na starih zemljevidih\" data-grid-type=\"2\" data-offset=\"5.3\" data-area-position=\"center\" data-icons=\"false\" data-preloader=\"true\" data-width=\"auto\" data-height=\"215\" data-padding=\"0\" data-quicksand=\"disabled\" data-quicksand-duration=\"none\" data-popup-theme=\"theme_6\" data-popup-type=\"pretty-photo\" data-popup-image-text=\"data-caption\" data-popup-widthsize=\"auto\" data-popup-heightsize=\"auto\" data-popup-i18n-words=\"{&quot;close&quot;:&quot;zapri&quot;,&quot;next&quot;:&quot;naprej&quot;,&quot;previous&quot;:&quot;prej\\u0161nja&quot;,&quot;start_slideshow&quot;:&quot;za\\u010dni slideshow&quot;,&quot;stop_slideshow&quot;:&quot;ustavi slideshow&quot;,&quot;image&quot;:&quot;slika&quot;,&quot;of&quot;:&quot;izklop&quot;,&quot;prev&quot;:&quot;nazaj&quot;,&quot;cExpand&quot;:&quot;Expand&quot;,&quot;cPrevious&quot;:&quot;Prej\\u0161nja&quot;,&quot;cNext&quot;:&quot;Naprej&quot;,&quot;cExpandStr&quot;:&quot;Expand the image&quot;,&quot;cRotate&quot;:&quot;Zavrti&quot;,&quot;cDetails&quot;:&quot;Details&quot;}\" data-popup-slideshow=\"false\" data-popup-slideshow-speed=\"2500\" data-popup-hoverstop=\"true\" data-popup-slideshow-auto=\"false\" data-popup-background=\"\" data-popup-transparency=\"30\" data-popup-disable-history=\"\" data-popup-disable-changed-url=\"\" data-popup-border-type=\"solid\" data-popup-border-color=\"\" data-popup-border-width=\"\" data-popup-border-enable=\"\" data-fullscreen=\"false\" data-hide-tooltip=\"false\" data-caption-font-family=\"Default\" data-caption-text-size=\"140\" data-is-mobile=\"0\" data-caption-mobile=\"false\" data-hide-long-tltp-title=\"0\" data-caption-disabled-on-mobile=\"false\" data-popup-placement-type=\"0\" data-social-sharing=\"{&quot;enabled&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;gallerySharing&quot;:{&quot;enabled&quot;:null,&quot;position&quot;:null},&quot;imageSharing&quot;:{&quot;enabled&quot;:null,&quot;wrapperClass&quot;:&quot; vertical &quot;},&quot;popupSharing&quot;:{&quot;enabled&quot;:null,&quot;wrapperClass&quot;:&quot; vertical &quot;}}\" class=\"grid-gallery grid-gallery-fixed \" style=\" width:100%; height:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;position:relative;\"> <div class=\"gallery-loading\"> <div class=\"blocks\"> <div class=\"block\"><\/div> <div class=\"block\"><\/div> <div class=\"block\"><\/div> <div class=\"block\"><\/div> <\/div> <\/div> <div class=\"gallery-sharing-top\"><\/div> <div id=\"photos-48\" class=\"grid-gallery-photos\"><a id=\"gg-48-219\" class=\"gg-link \" data-attachment-id=\"1600\" href=\"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902.jpg?gid=48\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902\" data-rel=\"prettyPhoto[pp_gal]\" style=\"border-radius:200;\"  rel=\"lightbox[1599]\"><FIGURE class=\"grid-gallery-caption shadow-show\" data-grid-gallery-type=\"direction-aware\" data-index=\"0\" style=\"display:none;border-radius:200; box-shadow:2px 4px 5px #000000;; margin:2.65px; height:2150; width:auto;\" ><div class=\"crop\" style=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902-381x215.jpg\" class=\"ggImg ggNotInitImg\" alt=\"Kranjsko in Primorsko 902\" title=\"Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902\" data-description=\"Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-del-istre-1950x1110_1902\" data-caption=\"Izrez iz zemljevida za ljudske \u0161ole s slovenskim jezikom &quot;Kranjsko in primorsko (Trst. 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Haardtov atlas za ljudske \u0161ole&quot; Zemljevid objavljen na Dunaju leta 1902 <\/object><\/div><\/div><\/FIGCAPTION><\/FIGURE><\/a><a id=\"gg-48-220\" class=\"gg-link \" data-attachment-id=\"1602\" href=\"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-cel-1920x1613_1902.jpg?gid=48\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-cel-1920x1613_1902\" data-rel=\"prettyPhoto[pp_gal]\" style=\"border-radius:200;\"  rel=\"lightbox[1599]\"><FIGURE class=\"grid-gallery-caption shadow-show\" data-grid-gallery-type=\"direction-aware\" data-index=\"1\" style=\"display:none;border-radius:200; box-shadow:2px 4px 5px #000000;; margin:2.65px; height:2150; width:auto;\" ><div class=\"crop\" style=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-cel-1920x1613_1902-256x215.jpg\" class=\"ggImg ggNotInitImg\" alt=\"Franc Ora\u017eem zemljevid 1902\" title=\"Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-cel-1920x1613_1902\" data-description=\"Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-cel-1920x1613_1902\" data-caption=\"Kranjsko in primorsko (Trst. Gorica-Gradi\u0161\u010de in Istra). Haardtov atlas za ljudske \u0161ole\" data-title=\"Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-cel-1920x1613_1902\" style=\" height:215px; width:auto;\" \/><\/div><FIGCAPTION class=\"\" data-alpha=\"5\" style=\"color:#ffffff; background-color:#0c0000; font-size:140; text-align:left; font-family:Default;\" ><div class=\"grid-gallery-figcaption-wrap\" style=\" vertical-align:top;\"><div class=\"gg-image-caption fitvidsignore\" style=\"font-size:140;\"><object type=\"none\/none\">Kranjsko in primorsko (Trst. Gorica-Gradi\u0161\u010de in Istra). Haardtov atlas za ljudske \u0161ole <\/object><\/div><\/div><\/FIGCAPTION><\/FIGURE><\/a><a id=\"gg-48-221\" class=\"gg-link \" data-attachment-id=\"1603\" href=\"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-Legenda-1950x1110_1902.jpg?gid=48\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-Legenda-1950x1110_1902\" data-rel=\"prettyPhoto[pp_gal]\" style=\"border-radius:200;\"  rel=\"lightbox[1599]\"><FIGURE class=\"grid-gallery-caption shadow-show\" data-grid-gallery-type=\"direction-aware\" data-index=\"2\" style=\"display:none;border-radius:200; box-shadow:2px 4px 5px #000000;; margin:2.65px; height:2150; width:auto;\" ><div class=\"crop\" style=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/kuopranbot.si\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-Legenda-1950x1110_1902-381x215.jpg\" class=\"ggImg ggNotInitImg\" alt=\"zemljevid legenda 1902\" title=\"Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-Legenda-1950x1110_1902\" data-description=\"Kranjsko-in-Primorsko-Legenda-1950x1110_1902\" data-caption=\"Izrez iz zemljevida za ljudske \u0161ole s slovenskim jezikom &quot;Kranjsko in primorsko (Trst. 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Haardtov atlas za ljudske \u0161ole&quot; Zemljevid objavljen na Dunaju leta 1902 <\/object><\/div><\/div><\/FIGCAPTION><\/FIGURE><\/a> <div class=\"grid-gallery-clearfix\"><\/div> <\/div> <div class=\"gallery-sharing-bottom\"><\/div> <div class=\"grid-gallery-clearfix\"><\/div> <\/div> <!-- Gallery by Supsystic plugin1.15.17 --><a title=\"Gallery Wordpress\" style=\"display:none;\" href=\"https:\/\/supsystic.com\/plugins\/photo-gallery\/?utm_medium=love_link\" target=\"_blank\">Gallery Wordpress<\/a>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>Kdor \u017eeli videti, ali prenesti na svoj ra\u010dunalnik zemljevid &#8220;Kranjsko in Primorsko (Trst. 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